yields the balance of his time to the gentleman from npr -- gentlewoman from npr. [laughter] >> i think mr. shields is right. you need the democrats to get a deal in the senate. there are 80 republicans in the house who say they will not sign anything that has any tax in eight. the democrats -- you really have to have a combination of taxes and cuts in order to get it passed either body and you have to move to the floor and pass a filibuster in the senate. >>, cut, cap and balance -- tea party folks love the idea of a constitutional amendment at what point does reality come to these people, because we know it is not going to happen? >> i love how you objectively pose the question. this is a fair and balanced program -- >> we do our best. we don't have the resources of were rupert murdoch -- -- [laughter] >> i think if this were a less heated environment, cutting and capping is a good idea. the budget and then it is a problem. i have a problem with it. -- the balanced budget amendment is a problem. i have a problem with it. but joe biden, who is a democrat, supported one in the 1990's.